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A computer game that contains blood, violence, sex, drugs and alcohol has sold more copies in its first day than any other in history. But not everybody is a fan of Grand Theft Auto IV. Available for children of any age in the US, critics warn that the game could lead to youth violence.
Released at midnight on Tuesday, the fourth version of GTA is Rockstar Games' bestseller yet, shipping 9.5 million copies worldwide for the first week of sales. Despite a relaxed advertising campaign compared with other game launches, millions of people queued up all over the world to get a copy. Concern was heightened in the UK when in a "life-imitates-art" fluke, a man in a queue in South London stabbed a passer-by. But while the sale of the game is banned to under-18s in Europe, Americans are simply "advised" with a "mature" rating. The Parents Television Council says that is not enough, and is willing to go to court to stop the game being handed over to minors.
Gavin McKiernan is the national grassroots director of the Parents Television Council, a non-partisan educational organization advocating responsible entertainment.
There have been thousands of studies that
prove the link between violent media and aggression in children. Plus they (the media) have
advertising everywhere. You wouldn't see cigarettes or porn plastered across
billboards near a school. There are plenty of good video games, for example
flight simulators or surgery technique practice. We've been successful on
things like this before and we're confident this time we can go even further in
getting this game banned for under-18s."
Adam Sinclair, 23, works at the Centre for Virtual Environment at Salford University, UK.
This game is
just incredible. It's a technological leap forward and the graphics and the
scripts - the things the characters say - are fantastic. The game simply isn't
marketed at children. It shouldn't be exposed to children because of adult
themes - prostitution, drugs, alcohol - not because of this supposed link with
violence. There might have been thousands of studies proving the link between
computer games and violence in children, but there are just as many thousands
that disprove it too. There's no violence incited in the adverts, and if a
parent wants to ban it, they can go into the video console and set it so that
certain games cannot be played using a password system."
Humberto is a 27-year-old Grand Theft Auto fan from Washington.
I spend all
my free time playing Grand Theft Auto IV - it's tough with having to go to
work. I've been playing GTA since '97 - it's my favourite game. You can go
bowling for a bit and then go on a shooting rampage and see how long it
lasts. This game is most popular with
older people. If the game were less violent then the artistic impression would
be ruined - it's about freedom of speech."

Commentaires
Easy to point fingers
Soumis par Grand Theft Cheater (non vérifié) le jeu, 07/08/2008 - 11:27.I am an avid gamer. I played Grand Theft Auto 4, and all the others in the series. The game is fun, and has a lot to offer in a gaming experience. Do I think the death and sex is a bit much? I do. But, I feel the same way about movies and television. Sometimes I wonder weather or not a scene or line really needed to be in the show.
People want something to blame for their issues. When a game like GTA 4 comes out and splays this all over the place for everyone to see you are going to get people throwing a fit because they can. It is an insane cycle. Do you think articles like this drop sales? NO WAY!
The real question I have is if the game wasn't as violent, would it bother gamers, and would parents still be up in arms over it all?
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Adam Sinclair's statement
Soumis par Gavin McKiernan le ven, 02/05/2008 - 22:43.Mr. Sinclair says:
"There might have been thousands of studies proving the link between computer games and violence in children, but there are just as many thousands that disprove it too."
This comment is counter-factual and not based in reality.
The subject of whether violent media can have a harmful affect on child development is proven, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry, the American Psychological Association, the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Family Physicians and the American Psychiatric Association all agree and even issued a joint statement to congress to this affect back in 2000. Point to one group that has half the stature that these groups do that would disagree.
Gavin McKiernan
What a load of rubbish,
Soumis par Funky J (non vérifié) le lun, 05/05/2008 - 01:18.What a load of rubbish, Gavin.
Even backed by these dodgy American organisations - whose very existence relies on this rubbish science, these "thousands of reports" (and it's not; it's actually only a handful from the same authors over and over again) are scientifically unsound and use such small sample sizes that they are worthless to the world at large.
If videogames had such an effect on children, we'd be seeing a massive jump in violence right now, but that's simply not the case. If videogames had such a impact, the most violent country in the world would be Japan, and again it's simply not the case.
Look at the crime statistics, which are a better real world indication of the effect of video games on the wider population, and you'll find that since the introduction of the Playstation, youth crime rates in the USA, UK and Australia have all declined.
Yes, it's got nothing to do with the Playstation or videogames, but that's precisely the point!
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Violence in Video Games
Soumis par cannedguds (non vérifié) le mar, 17/06/2008 - 07:31.I totally agree with you Funky J. Games are just games and if there are children that are affected by these, then, blame it on the parents. Who's buying for these kids? Who has the money to buy video games? Unless of course, if a 10-year-old kid has his own job right now, then, he will be responsible for his actions. Me and my kids play a lot of video games but in a disciplined manner. There are lots of violence happening all over the place and as a responsible parent, I always see to it that they get some words of wisdom from me and their mother. We play games for relaxation and entertainment and not to imitate what is happening in GTA or in any other games for that matter. As a matter of fact, I'm saving money to buy more video games for us & it's a sort of reward that I give to them for being obedient, kind and good boys and girls. We're not religious but we're God-fearing persons. We play games, stop, period, that's it. And I'm proud to have good kids. So, go ahead kids, play GTA all you want.
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seriously?
Soumis par Gavin McKiernan le mer, 07/05/2008 - 21:40.are you really saying that the american medical association and half a dozen other groups of physicians and scientist hold absolutely no weight? There is not really any point reasoning with someone who believes that but i will make one statement for the benefit of others who read this.
do you think media and video games in particular have the ability to teach things or do you discount people learning to fly planes in flight simulators or surgeons practicing their art or any number of other positives as being "scientifically unsound?"
interesting that games can do good but apparently they cant do bad also, first time in human history something positive didnt also have a negative application as well.
Gavin McKiernan
training
Soumis par Chris (non vérifié) le dim, 01/06/2008 - 01:23.Because a flight simulator 'helps' train pilots that doesn't mean violent games train kids to be violent. For someone so content on thinking he's correct in his opinions you sure do show a lack of understanding fallacy.
Pushing the x button does not teach me how to change the clip of an assault rifle nor does pushing the triangle button make me less likely to care about taking another person's life in the real world.
Even children understand that they are communicating with algorithms and not hurting real people, a lesson you should learn yourself.
All these fancy associations have agenda and thus regardless of how respectful and knowledgeable they seem their point is moot. TESTS AND STAT BUILDING ARE PERFORMED WITH THE OUTCOME ALREADY DECIDED.
70% of violent criminals have tried coffee or still do coffee therefore coffee is a drug that creates violence in our beloved society and should be banned. You know how absurd that sounds to us coffee drinkers?...That's how gamers feel when they read things like that which you and these associations have stated.
I respect your views and your right to have them but it's that line of thought without any effort towards critical thinking that creates most social ills, not computer games.
This argument will carry on for eternity. It's no-one's fault it's just that people are not taught how to think, they are taught to react from a list of lineal 'logic' <--- Paradox magni =P
I guess we can ban games and watch youth crime decline into myth, after all this problem only appeared when games were created.
P.S I wonder why taking a kid hunting and letting him put a bullet through an animal's head isn't a murder sim?
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The game is full of adult
Soumis par Joel Ninety (non vérifié) le ven, 02/05/2008 - 19:16.The game is full of adult themes, but this is the reason the game has an 18+ rating. In terms of game design and gameplay, Grand Theft Auto 4 is a marvel and builds on the quality of the previous games in the series. If people under the age of 18 are getting hold of the game then the retailers or parents are to blame.
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As a parent...
Soumis par Annie Keys (non vérifié) le lun, 18/08/2008 - 04:18.I have several rather mundane questions about if my child should have access to this sort of game. Why? is the first one. Why would I want to encourage this? Isn't it enough that our society has so exposed our children to the scouage of growing up far too fast and glorifing acts of harm and distruction? Why would I want to deliver it to my child or any child, especially in a form that is hardwired into their developing brains? We all have rights, sure and so does my child but that does not mean that we let a underage person make the choice for themselves. If that was the default way to make a dicision, they don't need parents for anything except for support. We don't allow them to buy beer because that, in the hands of someone that may not be equiped to make a reasonale choice is just not smart of a parent or of society and it seems to me that the same would apply here. As a parent I think I should error on the side of what might be best for my child and when he is better equiped he can make a new decision if he likes. Until then I think the sales should be restricted in order to, as a society, make a stand for what protects our children.
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sure
Soumis par Barn (non vérifié) le ven, 02/05/2008 - 19:42.Sure. And if children snif cocaine, we should only blame the parents, not drug dealers.
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ya your right, the parents
Soumis par Anonyme (non vérifié) le sam, 03/05/2008 - 06:12.ya your right, the parents should be held responsible for that too...
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If there wasn't video games,
Soumis par Utilisateur non inscrit le jeu, 26/06/2008 - 19:55.If there wasn't video games, the media would blame the movies. If there wasn't movies they would blame comics. At the end, we ourselfs are only to blame for how we turn out. We can't blame outside influences for how we act
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I agree, video games are
Soumis par Fat loss 4 idiots (non vérifié) le dim, 31/08/2008 - 20:24.I agree, video games are very inmortant. Without video games I would have nothing to do at my work =))
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Even i agree.its parents
Soumis par christopher (non vérifié) le mer, 02/07/2008 - 17:36.Even i agree.its parents responsibility
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It's none of parents fault.
Soumis par Steve (non vérifié) le mar, 02/09/2008 - 22:12.I think parents can do nothing regarding this because kids never spare parents. What if when other kids of same age have those games, what you will say to your own kids? I am not in against of the game, we have many other adult games on even m.a.m.e 32 but they are rated so it should be rated adult.
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Monkey see, Monkey do...
Soumis par How to overclock CPU (non vérifié) le mer, 09/07/2008 - 21:30.My ex girlfriend use to let your 6 year son play on GTA Sandrea and it wasn't long before he was quoting what the character was saying.
James
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