Submitted by Pinny Halpern (not verified) on Sat, 01/03/2008 - 14:53.
First, the facts recited on the show today, that 25% (or even 40%) of Israelis refuse to serve in the army are untrue. Yes, some 25% of the total israeli population do not serve, but 22% of the population is arab, 12% are ultraorthodox jews etc., so the actual percentage of conscious jewish refuseniks for ideological reasons having to do with the political situation is minuscule. Not that facts bother some observers, but they need to be stated...
Secondly, the only relevant issue is the right of Israel to exist. Those of you (jews and gentiles) who deny that presumption will not be swayed by reality anyway, so I will not address them. Those who accept such a right, must see that a country which was attacked with a view to anilihilate it on the first day of its independence, must maintain a "somewhat different" attitude regarding the need of its citizens to paticipate in its defense. Of course, germany had conscription until not long ago, heavily threatened switzerland had the highest percentage of military servicemen int the west for years, but - hey - they are our good european friends. And the poor little impoverished arab oil countries gunning for israel's destruction are all just good guys protecting the peace loving hamas-voting palestinians, so what do I (having fought in 3 wars) know?
military service in Israel
Submitted by Pinny Halpern (not verified) on Sat, 01/03/2008 - 14:53.First, the facts recited on the show today, that 25% (or even 40%) of Israelis refuse to serve in the army are untrue. Yes, some 25% of the total israeli population do not serve, but 22% of the population is arab, 12% are ultraorthodox jews etc., so the actual percentage of conscious jewish refuseniks for ideological reasons having to do with the political situation is minuscule. Not that facts bother some observers, but they need to be stated...
Secondly, the only relevant issue is the right of Israel to exist. Those of you (jews and gentiles) who deny that presumption will not be swayed by reality anyway, so I will not address them. Those who accept such a right, must see that a country which was attacked with a view to anilihilate it on the first day of its independence, must maintain a "somewhat different" attitude regarding the need of its citizens to paticipate in its defense. Of course, germany had conscription until not long ago, heavily threatened switzerland had the highest percentage of military servicemen int the west for years, but - hey - they are our good european friends. And the poor little impoverished arab oil countries gunning for israel's destruction are all just good guys protecting the peace loving hamas-voting palestinians, so what do I (having fought in 3 wars) know?
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