“A few years ago, I would have been out there rioting with them. It’s their pain speaking.”
Jay Kast is a
recording artist and a youth worker living in Newham, east London. He’s been on the streets observing many of London’s riots and has spoken to numerous rioters in his community.

I was brought up on the streets of east London. I’m on the side of the culture that I come from. I feel the same anger as these rioters do. A few years ago, I would have been out there rioting with them. It’s their pain speaking.
Mark Duggan’s death shocked everyone. A lot of people taking part in the riots have told me, ‘I saw the boy’s face on TV, and I identified so deeply with him – that could have been me. I have nothing going for me anyway, so I might as well go out on the streets.’
Until recently, I worked full-time educating youth with the help of government grants. We had programs to help them write lyrics, make their own music, organize musical events. But in the last year all the programs have been shut down;
there’s no more funding. With budget cuts, the youth sector is no longer a priority. That was a slap in the face to all the youth. So they just went back out onto the streets, went back to having no hope.
“Duggan’s death was the last straw, but these riots are based on years of tension”
I believe that 50 percent of the youth are still focused on furthering themselves, still trying to find jobs. But the other half, well, it’s not that they don’t want to, but they don’t understand how to. They feel disconnected from their communities, and the last thing they want to do is get a job inside these communities.
It is true that they’re hurting their own communities by rioting, but in their mind their community doesn’t do anything for them. Duggan’s death was the last straw, but these riots are based on years of tension, ever since the 1985 Brixton riots (link). There’s the frustration of not being where they want to be, frustration of seeing their family members going to jail, frustration toward the police in their communities. Gangs from different parts of London, who on a normal day would be fighting, have put their drama aside and joined forces. The enemy isn’t the people running the restaurant or the sport shop; that’s unfortunately just what they’re using to annoy the authorities.
“They don’t know how to explain themselves; that’s why they’re rioting in the first place”
When I see camera crews coming into the area, the rioters yell and shout. They don’t know how to explain themselves; that’s why they’re rioting in the first place. I know what they want to say, but they’re saying all the wrong things.
The anger is still here. It’s not going to just disappear. But I don’t think there’s much the government can do now – they’ve let it go too far. It’s like when you’re hungry, once you’ve gotten past the hunger pains, no matter what food you’re given you don’t want to eat anymore."
Comments
London Rioters The Causes
Submitted by Dr Bob Matthews (not verified) on Fri, 12/08/2011 - 02:11.There are many reasons for the mob running riot in London and other UK cities. It is easy to say for those of us not at the bottom of the pile "blame the parents". There is some truth in that particular viewpoint, but does it really account for those who were caught up in the looting and were in fact employed, came from a good family background. Perhaps if we strip out the minority who one could refer to as systematic opportunists who risked reputation, future and present employment prospects and being caught.
This leaves the rest as a core problem.
The core problem is a mix of both white and ethnic races and they both carry the same set of what I would call genetic failures. They come from homes where there is unemployment and income is based on social benefits. These adolescents are poorly educated, lack acceptable social skills, have little skills for employment and have effectively been swept under the carpet by successive governments of all political colours. The problem basically is embarrassing, not been robustly addressed and even when economic times where good, no sustained investment in training or resolving the problem was really attempted.
For a wealthy country in the UK, this I am afraid is a reflection on the inherent self serving greed, short sightedness and unwillingness to accept the problem. Once we accept responsibility as a country for the problem, then and only then can we start to correct it.
The full force of the law is the easy way out and does nothing to change the cause it only addresses the effects. Society as a whole has avoided meeting out justice in the case of those who have contributed to the destruction of the economies of the world; the speculators, merchant bankers, the issuers of worthless paper, the International Corporations and their wealthy clients and owners who offshore investments to avoid paying their contributions. Together with politicians’ involved in expense scandals, phone tapping and secretive meetings with newspaper barons the underprivileged have been somewhat restrained in their reaction to common thievery by their so called betters.
What have we offered youth today as examples of good manners, morals and good character? Overpaid drug taking celebrities, footballers with the morals of the farmyard, corrupt police officers accepting bribes, politicians fiddling their expenses.
Is it any wonder then that the young follow are example.
The government of today must take its share of the blame, destroying jobs in either the public or private sector to ensure the continued greed and malpractice of the wealthy financial institutions is not the way forward. For an economy to work in the interests of its citizens, it must have equitable policies that are good for all. It has a duty to provide the education and support for the less privileged even if it means increasing taxation for the wealthy. Then and only then can we be considered to be a civilised society, failure to accept this fact will lead to far more civil unrest and anarchy.
Stop Excusing and Enabling Destructive Behaviour!
Submitted by Melody Young (not verified) on Thu, 11/08/2011 - 21:19.As a response to what has been said by the youth worker in the article above, I want to express my disgust and sadness that any educator in the UK could ever excuse the level of violence the rioters have indulged in over the past few days. Only a few year ago, I worked as a Learning Mentor, was part of teaching English to raise achievement amongst mainly black young men in Bristol city, and taught in several inner-city schools. I know first-hand there are youth who are hurting, and I've been hurt by the system in the past too. The problem with what the said educator above has written is that he seems to think it is a RIGHT to have government funding for youth projects. It is NOT a right, it is a priviledge.
When you compare the youth of Great Britain to the youth of so many other countries outside of Europe, it is clear that many British youth are bitter, spoilt, and feel entitled to things to ease their pain that no one else in the world gets or is entitled to! To get an education in the US, many youth are forced financially to join the military, whereas education is still relatively affordable in the UK. When British youth get sick, they go to the doctor, and get the treatment they need for free or nearly so. If a young person needs a home in the UK, there are many options available to ensure housing. In some parts of the world, people are being killed for simply asking for a little more freedom.
Some elements of British youth seem to think they have to right to take whatever they want, hurting their own economy, and then they blame the government for not providing enough for them. Many such people have obviously never learned that they must TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for their own actions and life, and that part of that is the risk that they will not be able have all they ever dreamed of, because sometimes things don't just work out. That is where resilience is built in character.
What also angers me about the educator's remarks is that he seems to think this was a racial issue. Most people involved in rioting obviously could care less about the man who died- they just wanted an excuse to hurt those better off than themselves. Hating the rich or the police doesn't solve anything- and to go further, many rioters revealed themselves to be racists by their actions! Let us not forget, people DIED during these riots-defending their livelihoods, just trying to live their lives. All of those involved in the rioting are criminals, and don't excuse this as acting out of pain. I just hope there will be consequences for these evil actions, and that debate in the UK will move on from such ridiculous excuses which simply enable a nannied state of troubled youth.
What a load of rubbish
Submitted by shawarma man (not verified) on Thu, 11/08/2011 - 15:37.Hopefully their pain can come and speak in your immediate vicinity.
London Rioters
Submitted by sonya (not verified) on Thu, 11/08/2011 - 11:35.The parents should also be given the death penalty for putting on this earth louts
That's No Excuse
Submitted by Sean (not verified) on Wed, 10/08/2011 - 22:05.This is not the first time rioting has occurred and nor will it be the last. Placing the blame at the government's feet is ridiculous. These kids should be staying in school and trying to make something of themselves; not descending into hooliganism. Fortunately for them, they are living in a joke of a society that seemingly doesn't believe in law and order. If that happened in Northern Ireland or the United States, those kids that are looting would be 6ft under where they belong with bullets riddling their corpses and the rioters black and blue from the riot police.
So you would like a society
Submitted by Yvie (not verified) on Thu, 11/08/2011 - 18:07.So you would like a society like Syria. Why don't you go there you would be perfectly at home with the army there. You might even get the chance to shot someone.
There's a huge difference
Submitted by Sean (not verified) on Mon, 15/08/2011 - 03:55.There's a huge difference between peaceful, democratic protest and rioting. Rioting is hardly democratic or peaceful. Employing anarchy for thrills is hardly excusable. The U.K is way too PC about it. They need to take the gloves off. I applaud recent talk of stripping the rioters of their social benefits/welfare seeing as they're unproductive to start with. I don't think all the rioters should be shot, but many of them do deserve a bullet for their troubles or to be beaten by the riot police. I wish that the U.K valued the rights of its law abiding citizenry and allowed them to bear arms in their own defense of self and property.
reply to comment
Submitted by stanley cholaj (not verified) on Thu, 11/08/2011 - 16:13.The softly softly approach does not work in England.Political correctness proved to be a non starter.Its time to start a radical approach to the whole tolerance of the mindless minority who make life unbearable for the majority.Mr Cameron I am sure that if you really get tough with these yobs the British public will be 100% behind you.Let no one be surprised that sooner or later the BNP will make its presence felt.
Excuses nad Reasons
Submitted by PeteK (not verified) on Thu, 11/08/2011 - 08:16.Thats a simplistic view sean, even in Norhern Ireland few are the times when a riot leaves streets strewn with bullet ridden corpses, and the reasons as obvious there as it is on the mainland: where violence happens though unexcusable its often an explosion of frustration at a an issue the perpetrators dont seem able to or wont find another channel use.
I Realize That
Submitted by Sean (not verified) on Thu, 11/08/2011 - 16:26.I realize that it is an oversimplification, but the U.K is being ridiculous with its deliberation over whether to use water cannons and rubber rounds. Law and order has become a joke there. In the United States, there would of been no delay. You can't tolerate youth hooligans running amuck under the guise of some social problem that may or may not exist. It's nothing short of anarchy.