What future for the Roma if they are forced out of France?

Member of the Roma community in France. Photo : Eric Roset

The French government has just announced that it will be taking a harder line towards its Roma community. According to the Minister of the Interior, Brice Hortefeux, this will involve numerous expulsions. What will happen to the Roma who are sent back to their countries of origin?

The death of a young man from the travelling community of Saint-Aignan, killed by police during a vehicle inspection, led to several incidents between members of the community and the local authorities. On Wednesday, in response to these incidents, the interior ministry announced a number of different measures to tackle the “behaviour problems” of these nomadic communities. These measures will affect both French travellers and Roma immigrants from both Romania and Bulgaria.

Over the next three months, half of the 600 illegal camps established in France will be dismantled. In addition, the authorities will begin “the process of sending Roma who have committed public order offences or fraud back to Bulgaria or Romania”.

In the eyes of Roma associations and human rights groups, these measures represent both an ethnically-based approach to tackling delinquency and the stigmatization of these people.

In 2009, nearly 10,000 Roma were sent back to Romania and Bulgaria, with the French government providing 7,966 of those leaving with some level of support (free plane ticket and a rehabilitation benefit of €300 per person).

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"If France sends the Roma back to Romania, they will spend several days saying hello to their family and then come back as soon as they can."

Alina is a pharmacist in Geneva, Switzerland. She is of Romanian origin and regularly visits Roma and traveler communities all over Europe, accompanied by her photographer husband Eric Roset. They are the founding members of the association Mesemrom which supports Roma who pass through Geneva.

“In Romania, the communist governments forced the Roma to settle at the beginning of the 20th century. They continue to live in makeshift villages. The Romanian villages in Transylvania (a region in the centre-west of Romania) are usually divided into three parts: one area belongs to the Hungarians, another to the Romanians and a third to the Roma. And the Roma neighbourhood is always the most run down. The majority of residents don’t have access to running water, they have to use wells, and just passing through these areas is enough to see that the tarmac on the roads is not as good quality as elsewhere. I can assure you that if France sends the Roma back to Romania, they will spend several days saying hello to their family and then come back as soon as they can.

A member of the Roma from Auid, a community which regularly passes through Geneva. Photo: Eric Roset

 

"It’s not by working in the fields, and being paid in potatoes, that one puts bread on the table"

What do people expect? We can’t begrudge others for trying to escape poverty. In the past they made copper pots, going from village to village repairing saucepans or shoeing horses. Under Nicolae Ceausescu the Roma were hired in factories or worked on collective farms. But today, with the privatization of businesses, the majority of Roma - very few of whom have any qualifications - have been fired. And it is not by working in the fields, and being paid in potatoes, that one puts bread on the table.

Members of a Roma community in France. Photo: Eric Roset

"At school, when you say that you are Roma, they put you at the back of the class"

The Roma are discriminated against on a daily basis in Romania. The great majority of Romanians think that they are dirty and that they steal. I have a friend who I met at university who had Roma origins, and during her studies she took care never to mention that she was Roma. At school, when you say that you are Roma, they put you at the back of the class and avoid coming near you. This is the mentality of most of the population and it’s not going to change anytime soon. Everything perpetuates this exclusion, and very few people escape this. We are aware that politicians are keen to better integrate these communities into Romanian society – there are even European funds made available for this purpose – but when you see these places with your own eyes it’s clear that nothing is changing. There is no flong-term plan to support or integrate these populations.

"By coming to France, they are able to put some money aside"

It is important to try and understand their actions. When they come to a country like France, all they want to do is eat, sleep and earn enough money to improve their daily life. They are always in “survival” mode and they don’t think about life in the same way that we do. Some of them don’t even know their date of birth. By coming to France, they are able to put some money aside. This is practically impossible in their own countries, where the benefits available for some families often amount to less than €20 a month.

Four Roma Women in the Romanian countryside. Photos: Eric Roset

"During several days spent in the Yenish community, I was stopped and questioned several times"

I was very shocked to learn of the death of a young traveller in Saint Aignan. I understand their revolt against the authorities. I spent two weeks with the Yenish travellers in Switzerland with my husband and my children. After several days people thought I belonged to the community. As a result, I was stopped and questioned several times, I saw people pass us on scooters and swear at us, and others who came to unplug the caravans’ electricity source during the night. Some camps are even fired on by the Gadjé [the non-Roma]. I now know what they have to go through.

Two Roma from Auid, a community which regularly passes through Geneva. Photo : Eric Roset 

"To find travellers’ camps in France, you have to follow the signs for ‘Waste Reception Centre’"

It’s hard to imagine that my husband and I found travelers’ camps in France by following the signs for ‘Waste Reception Centre’. This strategy works nearly every time. When the town follows the law [the Besson law of 2000] and gives travellers some land, it is usually next to the local dump or motorway.

The decisions of the French government draw on prejudiced ideas which do not distinguish between “travellers” and “Roma”. They are not at all the same as they have neither the same way of life nor the same nationality. Furthermore, the French authorities will soon come up against the fact that France and Romania both belong to Europe and they will have to accept the idea that the free circulation of people will lead to the poor coming to richer countries.

"How do you know that a person Is Roma?"

To those who claim that there are mafia networks among the Roma, I would say that a family of 30 people who beg is not a mafia network. The Roma whom I met in Paris worked for themselves. Lastly, I ask the question: “How do you know that a person is Roma?” The Roma say “One is Roma if you say that you are”. There are some with blond hair and blue eyes, others with brown hair, and it is not written anywhere whether they are Roma or not. In any case, legislation which targets one community in particular is always worrying. All the more so when it acts as a smoke screen to distract attention from current political scandals…”"

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The Roma and other nomadic groups

Why is it so difficult for the Roma people and other such groups of nomic peoples to understand that if you move illegaly onto private or public land and squat, then systematically lie, cheat, steal and beg for everything without so much as cent in contribution to the local economy. And after considerable time mony and effort has been taken to rid a community of the blight caused by their arrival, not to mention the clean-up costs involved. It is therefore quite understandable that the people of the affected region get upset. The law abiding French nationals and other non-nationals who have elected to subscribe to those laws, have to pay dearly for their rights privilages, and benefits. Is it therefore so difficult to understand that when some ungrateful greedy nomadic group who wish to impose themselves upon that society that there is animosity towards such groups. I for one have experienced and witnessed their behaviour and conduct for years both in France and other parts of Europe the problem is the same wherever. I cannot and will not support measures to grant them goodwill whilst they [the nomadic groups however they wish to be called] behave in such a fashion toward the host nation. Whatever happened to the rights of the people to whom these groups invade.

I absolutely agree with you

I absolutely agree with you and am finally relieved that not only the French, but other host nations have had enough and are taking a hard look at what to do with these illegal immigrants. I work hard to support my family and community. Why should I support something or anyone illegal???

Eventual home for Roma Gypsies in France....

As usual, because the French wish to get rid of the Roma Gypsies, they will probably give them a camp near the Train Station for the Channel Tunnel.
I am sure that the Roma gypsies will somehow find a way to hide on the train for England.
So, as usual, the problem will move from France to England.
It HAS happened before....

to be honest there are two

to be honest there are two sides to all stories I think if the roma wish to remain in france they will have to prove to the people as a whole that they can benefit france and not just stir trouble as that is the impression that I get.

roma and france

france has always been a bigot country. what do you expect from them. the roma need to be allowed to do what they want with their life as long as they dont kill, rob, others. the roma have human rights regardless of who or where they come from.

You know,ive got to say that

You know,ive got to say that this comment has some weight,I know about life in France,and the outside world doesnt know about the mafia in France,no,not the Italian mafia,the mafia Im talking about are the French mafia,in every town,Its the govt and business,ask the french,they will tell you,France is a very racist and bigoted country,and it is also the best at covering it up,

Ask the French,the real french men and women in the streets,they will tell you.

this is "a real French" speaking

I reply as a "real French" whatever that means...
I disagree with the previous comment.

why is it so complicated to understand that France is not the paradise or rich country it is said to have been before ? golden age is gone and we simply cannot afford to be generous anymore. Our system is strained and I think it's logical that it benefits to those feeding it. If you want your part of the share, then you have to be part of the system and the problem with the tsigane / roma / travelers ( yes we put them all in the same bag no matter what their difference is ) is that they are not integrated. Just as some " minority" or "banlieue" are not.

the problem is not the orign, it's the attitude. If they want to enjoy a country of rights, then they have to work in that spirit. I don't think Romas / travelers / tsiganes are bad... I just cannot give money to all the people who are begging, I work for that money and i need it for myself too. there is the share I give to our social system ( it's fair, that I accept ) but then no one will force me to give charity !

and please, stop saying the President wants to "divert" the main opinion. Learn to think by yourself and make your own instead of following the mass...

"why is it so complicated to

"why is it so complicated to understand that France is not the paradise or rich country it is said to have been before ?"

Maybe because it is advertized that way? both by the media AND the French govt?

"If you want your part of the share, then you have to be part of the system "

the mafia mentality.

Chirac judge resigns, claiming 'mafia-like' corruption in France

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/chirac-judge-resigns-claiming-mafialike-corruption-in-france-663379.html

It exists in every town and ville,no new business are allowed to operate in oposition to the municipale.

In France it is about ones name or their connections in the govt or if they have alot of money,judges are bought or harrassed out of office.They rule in favor of their friends or friends of their friends.

for those who arent aware the judges in france are NOT elected,they are put into power by their friends/business partners.

MOCSKOS CIGÁNYOK!

Now you can imagine what happens in Hungary day-by-day, if only 100 gipsy made such a big trouble in France...

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